I think I may take Space Wolves.
One of the things that got me heading more surely down this path was going back to my old NZGT (and Natcon, Sydney GT etc.) 3rd Ed lists from 2000 to 2004 for some inspiration.
For instance, this was my 2002 Space Wolf NZGT army (2nd or 3rd place I think...?):
<apologies in advance for the formatting>
HQ - Wolf Lord
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##
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WS
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BS
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St
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To
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Wo
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In
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At
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Ld
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Save
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Cost
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Haakon
Ironwolf
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1
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5
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5
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4+1
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4
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3
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5
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4/5
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10
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2+
4+ Inv
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166
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Independent
Character; True Grit
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|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Combi
Bolter-Melta, Frost Axe
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|||||||||
Equipment:
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Runic
Armour, Belt of Russ, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Frag Grenades
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|
HQ - Wolf Guard Battle Leader
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##
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WS
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BS
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St
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To
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Wo
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In
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At
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Ld
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Save
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Cost
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Jotun
Steelwolf
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1
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5
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5
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4+1
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4
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3
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5
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4/5
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10
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3+
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86
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Independent
Character; True Grit
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|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Combi-Bolter,
Frost Axe
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|||||||||
Equipment:
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Frag
Grenades
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HQ - Wolf Guard Battle Leader
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##
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WS
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BS
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St
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To
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Wo
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In
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At
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Ld
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Save
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Cost
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Tjalfe
Helmreaver
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1
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5
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5
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4+1
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4
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3
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5
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4/5
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10
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3+
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82
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Independent
Character; True Grit
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|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Bolt
Pistol, Frost Axe
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|||||||||
Equipment:
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Frag
Grenades
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Troops –
Grey Hunters
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##
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WS
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BS
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St
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To
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Wo
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In
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At
|
Ld
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Save
|
Cost
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Matteaus’s Grey Hunter Pack
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10
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4
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4
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4
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4
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1
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4
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1/2
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8
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3+
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206
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True
Grit
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|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Bolter/Powerfist
, Plasma Gun, Bolter/CCW (x8)
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|||||||||
Equipment:
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Wolf
Totem
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|
Troops –
Grey Hunters
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##
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WS
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BS
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St
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To
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Wo
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In
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At
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Ld
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Save
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Cost
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|||||||||||
Karl's Grey Hunter Pack
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9
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4
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4
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4
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4
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1
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4
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1/2
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8
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3+
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246
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|||||||||||
True
Grit
|
||||||||||||||||||||||
Weapons:
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Plasma
Pistol/CCW, Bolt Pistol/Power Fist, Meltagun, Bolt Pistol/CCW (x6)
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|
||||||||||||||||||||
Equipment:
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Nil
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||||||||||||||||||||
Transport – Rhino
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##
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BS
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Armour:
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Front
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Side
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Rear
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|
|
|
|
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Rhino Baldur
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1
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4
|
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11
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11
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10
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||||||||||||||
Tank;
If immobilised in the shooting phase instead of shooting roll a die. On a “6”
vehicle becomes mobile.
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|||||||||||||||||||||
Weapons:
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Storm
Bolter
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|
||||||||||||||||||||
Equipment:
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Extra
Armour, Smoke Launchers
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Troops –
Grey Hunters
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##
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WS
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BS
|
St
|
To
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Wo
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In
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At
|
Ld
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Save
|
Cost
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Kjarveld’s Grey Hunter Pack
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10
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4
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4
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4
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4
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1
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4
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1/2
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8
|
3+
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235
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True
Grit
|
|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Bolter/Powerfist
, Bolter/CCW (x7), Plasma Pistol/CCW, Plasma Gun
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|||||||||
Equipment:
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Wolf
Totem
|
|
Troops –
Blood Claws
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##
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WS
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BS
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St
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To
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Wo
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In
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At
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Ld
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Save
|
Cost
|
Kaloth's Blood Claw Pack
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12
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3
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3
|
4
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4
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1
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4
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1/2
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8
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3+
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188
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Headstrong;
Berserk Charge
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|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Bolt
Pistol/Power Fist, Bolt Pistol/Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol/CCW (x10)
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|||||||||
Equipment:
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Frag
Grenades
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Heavy Support – Long Fangs
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##
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WS
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BS
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St
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To
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Wo
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In
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At
|
Ld
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Save
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Cost
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Olaf’s Long Fang Pack
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5
|
4
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4
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4
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4
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1
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4
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1
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9
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3+
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199
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True
Grit
|
|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Bolter/CCW,
Heavy Bolter, Lascannon, Missile Launcher (x2)
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|||||||||
Equipment:
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Nil
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Heavy Support – Whirlwind
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##
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BS
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Armour:
|
Front
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Side
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Rear
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|
|
|
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Cost
|
|
Eld Fran Skyn
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1
|
4
|
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11
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11
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10
|
|
75
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||||
Tank
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|
|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Whirlwind
Multirocket Launcher
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||||||||||
Equipment:
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Nil
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Heavy Support – Predator Annihilator
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##
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BS
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Armour:
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Front
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Side
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Rear
|
|
|
|
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Cost
|
|
Wulfen Fang
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1
|
4
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13
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11
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10
|
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153
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||||
Tank
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|||||||||||
Weapons:
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Turret
Twin-linked Lascannon, Sponson Lascannons
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|
||||||||||
Equipment:
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Extra
Armour, Smoke Launchers
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|
Elites – Wolf Scouts
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##
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WS
|
BS
|
St
|
To
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Wo
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In
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At
|
Ld
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Save
|
Cost
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Balur's Wolf Scout Pack
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5
|
4
|
4
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4
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4
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1
|
4
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1/2
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8
|
4+
|
110
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Infiltrate
if allowed; Operate behind enemy lines
|
|||||||||||
Weapons:
|
Meltagun,
Bolt Pistol/Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol/CCW (x3)
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|
|||||||||
Equipment:
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Meltabombs
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|
In old numbers and percentagy stuff, it came out as this:
Troop Type
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##
|
Count
|
Unused
|
Points
|
Unused
|
Percent
|
HQ
(>=3unit <=3unit)
|
3
|
3
|
0
|
334
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1416
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19%
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Elite
(<=3unit)
|
5
|
1
|
2
|
110
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1640
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6%
|
Troops
(>=2unit <=6unit)
|
41
|
4
|
2
|
875
|
875
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50%
|
Fst.
Atck. (<=3unit)
|
0
|
0
|
3
|
0
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1750
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0%
|
Hvy.
Supp. (<=3unit)
|
7
|
3
|
0
|
427
|
1323
|
25%
|
Total:
|
47
|
11
|
6
|
1500
|
0
|
100%
|
Wargear
Summary
|
|
7
|
n/a
|
78
|
n/a
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5%
|
So curious, I went and pointed them up for 8th Ed.
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [59 PL, 930pts] ++
+ HQ +
Wolf Lord [5 PL, 100pts]: 3. Tenacious Survivor, Combi-melta, Frost sword, Krakenbone Sword, Warlord
Wolf Guard Battle Leader [5 PL, 70pts]: Bolt pistol, Frost axe
+ Troops +
Blood Claws [12 PL, 177pts]
. 10x Blood Claw
. Blood Claw Pack Leader: Power fist
. Blood Claw with Special Weapon: Flamer
Grey Hunters [11 PL, 178pts]: 9x Chainsword, Wolf Standard
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist
. 7x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun
Grey Hunters [11 PL, 178pts]: 9x Chainsword, Wolf Standard
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist
. 7x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Plasma gun
Grey Hunters [11 PL, 153pts]: 8x Chainsword
. Grey Hunter Pack Leader: Power fist
. 6x Grey Hunter w/Bolt Pistol
. Grey Hunter w/Plasma Pistol: Plasma pistol
. Grey Hunter with Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Meltagun
+ Elites +
Wolf Scouts [4 PL, 72pts]
. Wolf Scout: Combat knife
. Wolf Scout: Astartes shotgun
. Wolf Scout: Astartes shotgun
. Wolf Scout Pack Leader: Bolt pistol, Combat knife
. Wolf Scout with Heavy Weapon: Meltagun
+ Dedicated Transport +
Rhino [4 PL, 74pts]: 2x Storm bolter
++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [27 PL, 540pts] ++
+ HQ +
Wolf Guard Battle Leader [5 PL, 72pts]: Frost axe, Storm bolter
+ Heavy Support +
Long Fangs [7 PL, 170pts]
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Lascannon
. Long Fang: Missile launcher
. Long Fang: Missile launcher
. Long Fang Pack Leader: Boltgun and Bolt Pistol, Chainsword
Predator [9 PL, 192pts]: Storm bolter, Twin lascannon
. Two Lascannons: 2x Lascannon
Whirlwind [6 PL, 106pts]: Storm bolter, Whirlwind vengeance launcher
++ Total: [86 PL, 1542pts] ++
So that looks pretty similar, and probably a good base to work off (albeit a lot to paint...)
Any thoughts comments or suggestions for upping this to 1750 would be appreciated.
I imagine the extra 250pts might come down to a unit of Wulfen vs a unit of Thunderwolves (with some tweaking of the units i.e. drop a plasma gun in the Grey Hunters for a Wolf Guard leader with a combi-plasma if I want +1Ld, also maybe drop some Power Fists for Power Axes, that sort of thing... and goodbye combi-melta/meltaguns in general).
Interesting exercise though!
Well, your first mistake was Space Wolves
ReplyDeleteI would suggest thunder wolves. that 3++ is so good at soaking up fire and distracting from your back line.
ReplyDeleteBut only if you can afford to arm them all with storm shields!
DeleteThe second mistake was the stupid font
ReplyDeleteYou're so pathetically jealous that I used Viner Hand ITC
DeleteQuad Lascannon Predator dies in the first turn usually. Well, mine always does anyway. I put heavy bolters on the sponsons to make him cheaper and less of a juicy bullet magnet. That still didn't work so now I take 2 lascannon razorbacks.
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